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This thing seems to get a lot of favs. And a lot of people saying "It's the best show ever". Yeah, well it's a pretty good show. And it encouraged people to be more experimental with cartoons. But... People seem to WORSHIP Ren and Stimpy, and sort of treat John K like the God of cartoons and animation. I'm sick and tired of seeing wannabe spumco artists, and people who gain inspiration only from John K's blog. It's as bad as anime artists who only draw anime.

Sure, Preston Blair was a great cartoonist, and I even own his book.. But John himself is completely cynical about anything made in the last 20 years. Yeah, okay. It's alright to be picky about animation. Yeah, okay, I use to read John's blog everyday. I use to look up to him. And still agree with some of his ideas. I'm sure you can see the inspiration in my work, that I'm trying to shake off.

All I'm trying to say is PEOPLE, you need to find other inspirations! Draw from life, go to the zoo, do life drawing. GET OUT THERE! DEVELOP YOUR OWN STYLE! find artists and animators who are currently SUCCESSFUL and employed (come on, who has actually enjoyed the cartoons John has made lately? In comparison to R&S). ALSO, don't start hating things just because John K does.

I want to end by saying Ren and Stimpy was a pretty great cartoon, but not all modern cartoons are shit and "not like they use to be!". Cartoons, yes, are a big part of my life - but I don't consider crappy modern cartoons the worst tragedy in the world.

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:iconwildtraveller:
I actually remember watching that show when I was little.... good times.

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Seeing how half empty this world is, maybe escaping this god-awful reality isn't so bad after all.
:iconnevermore-flutist:
I miss this show! :iconohnoesplz:

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:iconhybridyuki:
Ah, i just got back into watching it~! Glad there's a stamp for it!

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Men of broader intellect know that there is no sharp distinction betwixt the real and the unreal...
- H.P. Lovecraft, "The Tomb"
:icondsoloud:
Awesome stamp thanks!

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Do you like stuff and things that are awesome? ME TOO! We have so much in common. :woohoo:
:iconpaintpops:
Thank you for the stamp! Took it <3.
:iconlambcaey:
I'm watching an episode right now! :) Sure it's gross and vulgar, but IMO, it's like what a ten-year-old would wanna watch if he was on the ultimate sugar high. "I wanna see them hit themselves on the head, and then I wanna see them hit their butts together 'cause butts are funny, and then I wanna see them play with their boogers and pop their eyes out!!" :iconspazplz: :giggle:

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I am what you might call a certified Disney freak. :icondisneyplz:

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"All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to persue them."- Walt Disney
:iconpossemaster:
Ren and Stimpy was the greatest cartoon ever made! :D Awesome stamp!

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:iconlillykitten:
I love your artist statement. :heart:

I really respect John K. Ren and Stimpy was absolutely pivotal for for the Western cartoon industry, not only for raising the bar when it came to animation techniques, but for opening the door to creator made cartoons- South park, Arrrrgh! It's the Mr. hell Show!, Drawn together etc. (love them or hate them, they are better by far then the half hour glorified toy commercials of the '80's)

And I do Love the John K era of Ren and Stimpy, I was even part of the first audience in the world to see his Adult Party Cartoons.

His blog is beautifully cynical, and his views on animation are often facinating...

But Ren and Stimpy was his FIRST CARTOON. Look back at your own first painting, drawing, comic... Do YOU like it? It was good, but I do enjoy other cartoons.

And it's HIS style. Not yours. he worked through the artistic processes to get there, it's his signature, his familiar. GET. YOUR. OWN. He doesn't know everything there is to know about everything. '

I teach kids character design and I get SO annoyed with the copied styles I see... anime, manga, powerepuff girls... it's an uphill battle a lot of the time to teach them that they have to develop their own...
:icontotallynothere:
Thanks! I pretty much agree with what you said thurr. Ren and Stimpy did open the doors for a LOT of cartoons.. But a lot of cartoons are pretty much replicated it but with an altered style and context, Schnookums and Meat, Cow and Chicken, Billy and Mandy, the Mighty B. Too many to name really.

Ha! I like all but the Mr Hell show was kind of unbearable due to the lazy flash animation.. The pilot was amazing though.

You know what - I haven't even watched the whole Adult Party Cartoons, just snippets. Tbh, I just prefer to watch series 2-3 instead. Not that I have a problem with the vulgarity but the drawings aren't as good to me. They were fantastic back then, and even when they were poorly translated by an inbetweener or whatever - it was funny. Now it's just ugly and the animation is digitalized. And yes, Ren and Stimpy was his first cartoon he directed and created, but the stuff her worked on before that was pretty similar in style - New Adventures of Mighty Mouse for example. I think Ren and Stimpy was kind of made in his prime - I don't think he's really improved as a cartoonist since then. So I kind of disagree that it was like his first painting. He had a LOT of warm ups.

But yeah I agree with your point about it being HIS style. When people kept looking at my art and saying it looked like Ren and Stimpy, or even people who seemed less involved and knowledgeable about cartoons asked if I knew ABOUT Ren and Stimpy, I started to sort of worry where the direction of my style was going. Other people, seem to be honored or enjoy when this happens. Whether they're talking about Craig McCracken's style or some random anime, and I can't fathom why, but they don't seem phased. Influence can be a good thing, yes, but only being able to draw in one style - especially if it isn't your own - is a very very very bad thing.
:iconlillykitten:
I noticed that... Even now "new" Western toons pop up with a distinctly Krisfaluci flavour, and there's been many a rumour of direct theft- if i recall that was the reason he shut his site down.
Sometimes inspiration and flat out plagarism are apparently easily confused...

I managed to get around the abominable Flash animation on Mr. Hell, though I can also stomatch fairly abominable anime too, if the plot/characters interesting- characters are more my speciality then any other area.

I attened a John K. retrospective as part of the Melbourne International Animation Festival. He really was the very first animator-creator that made me love and respect the artform and the people behind so it was a no brainer that I had to go ^^. They premiered the Alturists and naked Beach Frenzy there- the uncut versions. Though admittedly I've had no inclination to hunt down the DVD after.

I actually couldn't think of a good simile for the example ^^ I think its closer to say "look at an early exhibition" but I get the feeling not too many DAers have HAD exhibitions... (God, I sound like such bitchy elitist saying that!)

People thought your stuff looked like Ren and Stimpy? I can see a tiny tiny hint, but I also see traditional, I see Robert Crumb, Hell, I can even see Chuck Jones... were the people comaring you BLIND?
I get compared to anime. It gets my back up something feirce. "Ooh, big eyes? Not a) Directly Western b) Disneyesque.... Must be ANIME!" No, I actually hated anime for a long time- and that long time included the time my signature style cemented. I think it's more accurate to say it evolved along similar lines as anime- and still, to me, doesn't look like it at all.

I get perticually techy with people who can only do their one, copied style and aspire to be animators or comic book artists and STILL doesn't get why they need c-razy things like life drawing, still life drawing, character design sheets and other madness. My ruddy class is full of them.

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