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This thing seems to get a lot of favs. And a lot of people saying "It's the best show ever". Yeah, well it's a pretty good show. And it encouraged people to be more experimental with cartoons. But... People seem to WORSHIP Ren and Stimpy, and sort of treat John K like the God of cartoons and animation. I'm sick and tired of seeing wannabe spumco artists, and people who gain inspiration only from John K's blog. It's as bad as anime artists who only draw anime.

Sure, Preston Blair was a great cartoonist, and I even own his book.. But John himself is completely cynical about anything made in the last 20 years. Yeah, okay. It's alright to be picky about animation. Yeah, okay, I use to read John's blog everyday. I use to look up to him. And still agree with some of his ideas. I'm sure you can see the inspiration in my work, that I'm trying to shake off.

All I'm trying to say is PEOPLE, you need to find other inspirations! Draw from life, go to the zoo, do life drawing. GET OUT THERE! DEVELOP YOUR OWN STYLE! find artists and animators who are currently SUCCESSFUL and employed (come on, who has actually enjoyed the cartoons John has made lately? In comparison to R&S). ALSO, don't start hating things just because John K does.

I want to end by saying Ren and Stimpy was a pretty great cartoon, but not all modern cartoons are shit and "not like they use to be!". Cartoons, yes, are a big part of my life - but I don't consider crappy modern cartoons the worst tragedy in the world.

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:icontotallynothere:
Haha. I use to watch some pretty bad anime myself. But I only really watch Studio Ghibli now. Sick of anime and all the crap that goes with it. Saying that, I will watch an occasional series of anime if someone has said it's really good, or yeah, the characters seem appealing. And I really enjoy/know about character design more than any other aspect of cartoons as well. It's generally the most creative.


Melbourne huh? Lol I live in Hobart. Our film festivals; probably not as impressive. And lmao no I doubt many dAers have had an exhibition. Or even been to one LMAO! You don't sound like a bitchy elitist at all. It's good to be critical of the people on this site i think. People get away with too much here, and it's pathetic that not even the admins seem to know the first thing about art. :/ Kinda getting off topic though. XD

I'm glad that Ren and Stimpy isn't the first thing you notice about my style. haha i wouldnt say Crumb is a big influence, only discovered his stuff late last year. but i love it. And yes, well, anything that is gross and crude and doesn't seem to look drawn by Disney is usually Ren and Stimpy to them. I have to admit I saw a little inspiration from anime in your style, but there's no way I would CALL it anime lol. i can see a little itty disney influence aswell, oh and i can definitely see why Dean Yeagle is your fav artist :D

oh god me too! I've come across a lot of them through doing just normal art courses and stuff, most of them fail, no surprise there. right now I'm doing a BFA though and all i have to deal with is pretentious installation artists. Phew. XD And people who don't think life drawing is useful are really really retarded "oh but i'm trying to draw the body without reference. People will truly respect me if i can do that". Your class sounds interesting, also. Thought about starting up group and teaching the ways of cartooning and character design. But then I thought that pretty much everyone who will join will probably make me wanna pull my hair out.
:iconlillykitten:
I tend to be manga centric- anime is really just... almost a curio, as 9 times out of 10, the manga will have come first and thats where all the ideas lie, uncorrupted by 20 minute time slots, ad breaks and the intensely annoying "oh no! the artist hasn't finished the manga, but we have to wrap the series up! Lets MAKE STUFF UP! Who cares if it makes sense or actually creates a successful, satisfactory conclusion?" and it's even more botehrsome cousin, the "wow, this is making money! But the manga ends in another two episodes! Quick! Draw it out with pointless filler episodes intil it totally outlives its time"

Studio Ghibli is stunning. It really is the early Disney of Japan (say that to an otaku and watch them go up in flames. It's funny) It's doing the same thing for animation quality as Disney did in its heyday.

I'm considerably lucky to get the MIAF every year, but it is getting a little too AHHHHHHRT Dahhhhling for my tastes. You'll get one or two more traditional pieces in the finals, the rest will be post modern interpretations of a story that was a dream scape fo the artist's inner being. All very pretty, but nonsensical and generally boring. I have NO idea why this is such a big movement at the moment. I just wish i would stop.

Hisssss... I have noticed that about this site, (and others). I can bake a fairly decent lemon tart, but I don't claim to be a pastry chef and try and sell my creations for an inflated price at every market and food show going. But any gimp can pick up a pencil and claim to be a pro artist... It's not a talent thing, either, I've known some terrible young artists I'm happy to call pro artist because of their passion and dedication. AND KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR LIMITS. They don't try and sell any old trash before they're ready (and able to price it realistically without putting a ridiculously low tag that seems to perpetuate the General public's contempt for art as a "serious" career)
By all means, draw if you like it. I'm still making lemon tarts. But if you're serious, dedicate before you take on the titles, claim the skilllevels or (the bane of my existance) decide to make millions with a comic book you drew with your friends. (I want to know where these publishers are... the ones that apparently "Make millions" for comic artists... I've never found any)
Gah, rant over.

If you hadn't told me people think your style is R&S, I wouldn't have even noticed. It's there indeed, but its there in the way it's obvious you watched it and absorbed the nessissary pieces into your style rather than copied anything. Symbiotic artistry is one of the best ways of finding your own style ^^

Gah, art school... Seriously, I learned more (aside the pure Life Drawing and Still life drawing) from community center classes than doing art. I did learn several other things, like the kind of pretentios Installation artist types and mature age students obsessed with flowers and trees and malformed human portraits may sniff and sneer at "silly cartoons" but challange them to draw one sucessfully themselves while you do THIER style and they end up shutting up very veyr fast....

"They're cartoons, why do I need to learn how to draw realism?" Because you have to know anatomy to cartoonize it, dumbass....

It's a cliche, but its seriously worth hosting classes for the handful you get who really are inspired. I applied through a community center near me. A working with Children's licence is all you need.
:iconled-head:
this show scared the hell out of me in the best possible way.

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y u so mad 2 daie?
:iconlostlover30:
its not that i dislike ren & stimpy but it is simply repulsive and well....discusting. what im trying to get pass is that its comical but crude and vulgar...meaning the same thing, gross.
:icondominik528:
"Yeah, well it's a pretty good show. And it encouraged people to be more experimental with cartoons."

If that's true, then I'm thankful for Dan Povenmire for saving Disney with his TV series, "Phineas & Ferb".
:iconcoqi:
This was my fav show when i was a kid! This show back in the day was the orginal SpongeBob Kiddes!

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Let's Have a game show with rich people on them and they don't win money they'll just lose money until one of them goes completly broke and the show will be called "Ha Ha Now Your Poor!"
:icontotallynothere:
It can be kind of disturbing at times. But I think that's another reason I love it! Lol

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